
Soyjak Wiki talk:The Template Question
Suggestion Form[edit source]
If you wouldn't like to edit the main page directly, you may add your suggestions here. Reasons are appreciated, but not compulsory. They're not official but might get added. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 09:18, 15 April 2025 (EST)
Preferred format
- [[Template:(template)]] - (reason) - (notes)
Gem (exempt from program)
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Coal (needs to be modified somehow)
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Dust (needs overhaul or deletion)
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- (do not reply)
Discussion[edit source]
Aspie can be saved if we just make sure it's used in the correct contexts. There are many autists around the Soysphere and if possible this should be used in lieu of gegbull nigger faggot tranny. Clittycel is supposed to be used for chuddy people but there's also template:SmallChud and people use it for even left-wingers. Cobblestone (talk) 12:00, 11 April 2025 (EST) Coal/Dust Candidates:
- Iron. This template is supposed to be for neutral quality pages but in practice nobody ever bothers. If a page is neutral then no template is needed.
- IronShort. Ditto but for topic quality.
- RubyShort. I made this for topics that are below gem and above iron but in practice this has a very poor usecase since everyone either uses gem or vantawhite.
- Vantagray. Competing usecase for above.
- Equinox. Competing usecase for above. Let's keep just one and ack the rest.
- Chud: This page was written by hateful chuds... but the usecase is competing with Template:Offended which seemingly only exists because it was ripped from ED in the early days of this wiki. One or both of them needs to go. Cobblestone (talk) 12:06, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- Iron - I agree, poor usecase.
- Vantagray and Equinox - I partially disagree, because some topics are controversial, to the point that it equals out to aggressively neutral. I do agree that they're very similar, but in the same way that Brimstone and Antimatter are somewhat similar.
- IronShort and RubyShort - They have poor usecases, but don't contribute to template spam. They do, however, contribute to the quality categories being unnecessarily cluttered, which is becoming a problem. They're acceptable if perhaps some categories get merged, because quality templates don't usually get spammed.
- Written by hateful chuds - Agree. Offended steals its entire usecase. Should just redirect, or the other way around if it's "better".
- I'll also check out the templates that jackson was trying to ACK later.
- P.S Aspie does look good, desu. It just that it usually overlaps with gegbull. Might take it off the chopping block ya kuch aur.
- --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 13:45, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- Set a global limit of 4 templates per article. You don't need to get rid of templates; we have the space and people are using them. While I'm here we should start Protecting Perfect Pages like the different variant pages or great articles that have no drama attached to them. That's how we've done it over at 1d4/1d6chan for awhile and it looks good. --Who are you beneath your mask? (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- I think culling templates that have no function is a good idea based on complaints I hear on /soy/, and 4 templates is almost an entire screen's worth of slop you have to scroll through before you can start reading. A global limit is basically what's going on right now and Template:Tw was an attempt at that but it's a losing battle where you have to constantly monitor and remove templates from a number of pages. If you're going to remove the same templates that do nothing and add nothing to the page repeatedly you might as well get rid of the template entirely. What do you think? Cobblestone (talk) 17:04, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- https://www.soyjak.st/soy/thread/10584732.html There's a stickied thread now. Let's see what the soyteens think and act accordingly. Cobblestone (talk) 17:27, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- They seem to actually be okay with them. In that case they should probably be kept. Cobblestone (talk) 17:35, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- Ideally just limit the connection ones to one per page and only the most relevant one, I could try make one that says "This page has connections to MULTIPLE (hostile?/coaly?) GROUPS/SPLINTERS" if that can even work. Also limit any "gegbull" templates to one type per article too, and only the most relevant one since it's not multiple things this time. Sidsonhater (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- I like this solution --Who are you beneath your mask? (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2025 (EST)
- This sounds like a good idea on paper but it's nearly impossible to execute in practice. The main reason template spam is a problem in the first place is because editors just add relevant templates, but there's too many relevant templates. If we just say no to things that aren't immediately problematic, it'll just be jannies babysitting on every gegbull article. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 07:41, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Global limit of 4 will also lead to babysitting. I wrote a response but its points are identical to Cobblestone's points. I do like the perfect pages idea though. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 07:41, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- In that case, ack the templates that are lazy/add nothing like the connections ones. Soyteens love templates because they love to turn pages into this. It will always be a problem as long as the "spammable" templates exist. Cobblestone (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- evendoe the connections templates can be useful you just have to be careful where to add them
- they can theoretically be useful in certain cases but in practice you just find people going on articles they hate and saying this has connection to jarty jassy shemmy pedo gooner brimstones Cobblestone (talk) 08:47, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- evendoe the connections templates can be useful you just have to be careful where to add them
- In that case, ack the templates that are lazy/add nothing like the connections ones. Soyteens love templates because they love to turn pages into this. It will always be a problem as long as the "spammable" templates exist. Cobblestone (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2025 (EST)
evendoe all of these should be fukken kept o algx[edit source]
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP Cobsonant (talk) 12:14, 11 April 2025 (EST)
who cares[edit source]
they're funny maymay woahjack color boxes, as long as they're related to the article then they're fine
- trvke Cobsonant (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- They're getting excessive on certain pages. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 07:41, 12 April 2025 (EST)
joe[edit source]
benefits
-less template spam on pages maybe
cons
-have to fix 6 gorillion pages
-could just like not use them too much
-why do you have to delete them? You can just like trim them off pages
-template spam being a problem is massive snca why can't people just scroll down
-might do jack shit and will just fuck niche templates
-the templates were somewhat informational
-might not even fix template spam if pages didn't have the deleted templates(???)
-some removed templates weren't very big anyways so removing them wouldn't do anything
- (5) I'm accounting for niche usecases. Templates like Template:BritishEnglish are safe. (1) "Fixing 6 gorillion pages" and (3) "trimming the templates off" are identical actions. You can't condemn one and not the other. One more point, (2) I can't use the templates less for other editors. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 07:41, 12 April 2025 (EST)
here's why i marked these specific templates as "templates of interest":
- DoNotDelete - chud50002 schizoerald, started being used after i repolished it come to find out it's not needed at all and just hogs space. already deleted it because its coal.
- Aero - scarce usage
- TooManyTemplates - scarce usage + is a template itself telling people to remove templates. marge?
- Vantapurple - is a margerald in itself and makes no sense
That's the point Chud IX (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- BanRequest - i made it and i never intended for it to go into the template namespace. already deleted.
- Tumblr - coal, lacks a general usecase
- For Kids - ugly template and scarce usage
- Brimstein - ugly template and scarce usage
- Shemmy - hogging up the name "Shemmy" for no reason, ugly template
- Wordswordswords - usecase replaced by the arguably better {{Infodump}}
- BuryPinkGril - usecase replaced by the more IAS {{BuryPinkSoytan}}
- Free Speech - little to no usecase, if it had one it would be replaced by either {{Divisive}} or {{Butthurt}}
- NumbNuts - more chud50002 schizo coal, scarce usage
- Spoilers - coal, usecase replaced by {{PageSpoilers}}
- ID - suggested by User:GapeNewell on IRC.
- Topaz - suggested by User:GapeNewell on IRC.
We should keep topaz because it's useful for indicating that the subject is a schizorald Chud IX (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Funny - Pages aren't required to be funny. Pages can be satirical but it's not a requirement like it is on unfunnypedia or trannypedia dilatica
- Unfunny - same as above
sure some can stay but i seriously believe some of these need to go. — [t / c / me / snca] 08:58, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- I'll sort through these in a few, and I think that'll reflect my opinion. A minority of the templates you mentioned just have a niche but otherwise excusable usecase. I'm okay with niche templates as long they have a decent reason to exist. The redundant ones, we can turn to a redirect soon. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 10:08, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- keep the rarely used templates like aero they are funny and they don't hurt anyone Cobsonant (talk) 10:32, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- i think we can keep aero and for kids perhaps since they're super niche but have usage Cobblestone (talk) 10:36, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Aero doesn't have a separate usecase from Calm or even Oldfag. It looks pretty but doesn't have a usecase. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 11:29, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Frutiger Aero and the oldfag templates can be merged into one and have it just be named "This page is hekkin' nostalgic!" and then it applies to Frutiger aero pages and oldfag pages
- Do this Cobblestone (talk) 11:33, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Albeit maybe dont have it be a "This is an oldfag" template or else you would have to put that flashbang on every single fucking person relevant to the Soysphere before like 2023 Cobblestone (talk) 11:34, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Actual oldfarts don't need to have templates saying that they're old and use walkers. Just have it for pages about actual topics.
- Frutiger Aero and the oldfag templates can be merged into one and have it just be named "This page is hekkin' nostalgic!" and then it applies to Frutiger aero pages and oldfag pages
- Aero doesn't have a separate usecase from Calm or even Oldfag. It looks pretty but doesn't have a usecase. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 11:29, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- i think we can keep aero and for kids perhaps since they're super niche but have usage Cobblestone (talk) 10:36, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- keep the rarely used templates like aero they are funny and they don't hurt anyone Cobsonant (talk) 10:32, 12 April 2025 (EST)
- Agree on deleting aero, (evendoe I put a load of work into how it looked) brimstein, (marge template, at best turn it into a failGET one) wordswordswords, freespeech, (also marge) forkids (redundant to the small babyjak thing, but not fully?) and spoilers. (fugly template I tried making look a bit less eyerape although my pagespoilers one was stolen from ED) I made the ID'd one because a few articles are in fact Vinluv and Sidty related so any decisions to that should be tied to those articles. Burypinkgirl I'm torn on since some memes can probably be [s4s] related but [s4s] memes are all fairly dust aside from oldtroon ones that haven't been used in 12 years. Topaz and Numbnuts are basically just gem and brimstone variants of schizo topics and nuts topics respectively, you could look into doing something with the tseries aka. SAAAR this page does not have virus template too for trimming things since it seems redundant to the page connected to pakistan one. Sidsonhater (talk) 19:06, 12 April 2025 (EST)
NOOOOO DONT DELETE THE OFFENDED TEMPLATE BRING IT BACK Cobsonant (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- Template:Chud serves the same purpose doe just use that o algo —
[t / c / me / snca] 11:27, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- it will probably be merged into Template:Chud. for now it got acked cause it's the shittier looking one of the 2 Cobblestone (talk) 11:28, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- Add the link to the offended article doebeitCobsonant (talk) 12:08, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- Done. Cobblestone (talk) 12:14, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- Add the link to the offended article doebeitCobsonant (talk) 12:08, 13 April 2025 (EST)
Delete the Muslim and Jewish rating templates[edit source]
The God one is enough. Plus both Muslims and Jews are Abrahamic.
- I'm keeping those because they have a niche usecase for inter-religious conflicts. Using them as a Template:God clone however ain't gonna slide from here on out. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 16:07, 14 April 2025 (EST)
Keep the 'cord and failtroll ones[edit source]
They are good for safety reasons.
- 'cord is definitely safe and has a purpose. I just lumped it in with the others because it says "connections" Failtrolls has some overlap though. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 15:53, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- The brappy template is not mentioned o algo
MackyKacky (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2025 (EST)
- brappy is super niche but it has use and it's not really liable to be spammed so i think it should be kept perhaps Cobblestone (talk) 07:08, 15 April 2025 (EST)
Do embedded audio tracks templates serve any point[edit source]
Heavily doubt that anyone clicks play on them. <---- I do!
- They’re funny
This wasn’t a issue sure there’s a lot of templates but it’s a big wiki, maybe reduce the ratio of some[edit source]
I don’t see the issue in having many. It’s also good for cataloging articles and shit this is a non issue
I think everything is fine as is honestly[edit source]
I like seeing the mass of templates and I find them the funniest part of an article, the audio tracks add a vibe to the article too and honestly I think they should autoplay (with ones that have more then one they autoplay in sequence) -Moon Man
There is No Actual Template Problem[edit source]
A couple of jannies just randomly decided that there were too many templates. In other words, no fun allowed. There was nothing wrong with any of these templates and there was no need to delete any of them.--MoonMetropolis (talk) 16:09, 14 April 2025 (EST)
- Maybe you don't feel as if there is any issue because since late 2024 I have been culling all pages with templates like this and staying on top of it https://soyjakwiki.org/index.php?title=YuriGOD&oldid=144049, but it grows out of hand once you look away. Cobblestone (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2025 (EST)
- Just add a template limit per page that prevents more than (x) from being added
- I doubt you can do that automatically. All you can do is write a rule that won't be followed and you'll have to patrol/babysit certain pages to cull template towers from them like I've been doing for a while now. This isn't sustainable and the redundant templates must be thinned out. Cobblestone (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2025 (EST)
- To add to this point, templates aren't just headers. There's also footers and formats, which some templates include within. For example:
- I doubt you can do that automatically. All you can do is write a rule that won't be followed and you'll have to patrol/babysit certain pages to cull template towers from them like I've been doing for a while now. This isn't sustainable and the redundant templates must be thinned out. Cobblestone (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2025 (EST)
- Just add a template limit per page that prevents more than (x) from being added
> | This isn't a header | < |
, neither is this,
- Therefore, even if we can code in a template limit, it'll screw over everything else. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 18:49, 14 April 2025 (EST)
There's a template problem, and users called it out in 2022. - -- Gem (talk) 01:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC) 20:54, 15 April 2025 (EST)
Jassy[edit source]
I acked the jassy template because:
- I'm the one who created it initially.
- We don't need a whole template dedicated to an active pedophilic splinter.
- It's basically the same thing as the jarty template so I merged its song into that. Cobblestone (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2025 (EST)
i think we should have all templates listed here for overview[edit source]
this makes sense because we have 28342 thrembillion of them and listing them for easy access when discuss their use cases and positives/negatives to decide which are worth keeping/reworking/culling would be a good idea for the page that's all about analyzing the shitki's template library and choosing which ones to keep GauntletThrown (talk) 04:37, 15 April 2025 (EST)
- the ifunny , DistungishPatient, Sylver and For Kids should be removed in my opinion, they are hyper specific and arent really even used on anything to be honest and also the last one is just text and doesnt have any context for some weird reason--Silohpso (talk) 07:04, 15 April 2025 (EST)
- Sylver does have a legitimate use case/niche for Pokemon-related articles (notably Operation Pokem-ACK and Vp/ trolling tactics) so I'm voting in favor of keeping that one since it's clean, reasonably sized, and has a well defined use case that isn't overlapped by other templates. - User:GauntletThrown (talk) 18:43, 15 April 2025 (EST)
- Template:For Kids this is the last template, also this Template:DistinguishPatient
its just this
and essentially no one uses it--Silohpso (talk) 07:13, 15 April 2025 (EST)
- DistinguishPatient is niche but important for its niche. --SprokemowerMan ● Talk Page 07:17, 15 April 2025 (EST)
iron and dust aren't bad templates[edit source]
iron works because it's meant to show that the subject is iron or be a consensus on a more disputed topic. having no template means the quality is ambiguous, which works better at times, but a lot of times means the soyim will form dangerous conspiracy theories against big frootler such as "monster & robot" being sharty culture (DO NOT RESEARCH). dust being a "forgettable" template also works well for something that got spammed on the sharty, was a coal, and got forgotten instantly
also the "coal" category should be iron and the "dust" category should be coal
also also what happened to the "censored" template? i either haven't seen or haven't noticed it in months
Keep clittycel and dust[edit source]
It works for hitler and mass shooters and it hates on chuds which is gemmy. Also dust should be kept because it is a rating and is used in many pages mostly slopjaks and xitter related stuff i disagree that there should just be no quality ranking for that
I agree nazis deserve to be made fun of plus they are clearly different from most Gegbvlls --General Niggnin (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2025 (EST)
Some of these are funny though[edit source]
- I like some of these because they are nuts
Language variants are also funny since they only get used a few times because the wiki is almost completely in english, also seeing them on a users page or subpage is funny when they write insane pages because their fingers had nothing better to do Gemseed (talk) 06:04, 1 May 2025 (EST)
duplicate templates[edit source]
please ACK template:Infodump due to it being similar to template:WallOfText. CoblonDisciple (talk) 17:06, 1 May 2025 (EST)
vantawhite[edit source]
>Gets spammed on too many articles despite in theory being intended for only the best of the best
there are only 18 articles using it retard
>Redundant with the much older and prettier Gemerald template which already filled its usecase for much longer
vantawhite is shinier than a gemerald doe
>Visually distracting. Arguably an ugly template
the same could be said for template:brimstone CoblonDisciple (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2025 (EST)
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nice going niggers now the bottom of the page is filled with nav boxes
- nigga why did you just complain here instead of fixing it Cobblestone (talk) 20:38, 14 May 2025 (EST)
Consolidating Font Templates[edit source]
I've been reviewing the long list of font and color templates (e.g., {{Redtext}}, {{Bluetext2}}, {{Glow}}, {{RainbowText}}, etc.) after I saw The Template Question notice, and I think there’s a strong case for refactoring many of them into a single unified template.
Right now, we have dozens of templates that essentially wrap text in a different color or effect. While they each have unique names, many differ only in minor formatting like text color or the presence of a glow/shadow. These font templates are already cluttering the template namespace, so I propose replacing all of those with just using a more general-purpose template, something like: {{Color|#hex|#text shadow (optional)|Link (optional)|Text}},similar to what the {{Color}} template currently does.
This would replace things like:
- {{Redtext|Text}} → {{Color|#ff0000||Text}}
- {{Goldtext|Text}} → {{Color|#ffd700||Text}}
- {{FrootGlow|Text}} → {{Color|#f6750b|#00fe20|Text}}
- etc.
For templates that include text effects, like {{Glow}}, {{PurpleGlow}}, or {{AnimatedRainbowText}}, we could expand {{Color}} with optional style parameters like text-shadow, animation, etc., or split those into something like {{ColorEffect}} if that improves clarity..
Meanwhile, templates that are structurally unique such as:
- {{Quoting}}
- {{Post}}
- {{Multiquote}}
- {{Shaketext}}
- {{Scrollingtext}}
should remain as-is, since they serve more complex or niche purposes beyond simple styling.
Let me know what you all think.
—Fenriris (talk) 12:47, 15 May 2025 (EST)
Template:Perfect[edit source]
I dislike this template. No page on the wiki is too good to be edited. Cobblestone (talk) 05:10, 16 May 2025 (EST)
>no page on the wiki is too good to be edited
even doe Great Cuckset is the prime example of a perfect wiki page since it's an epic winerald or however the burger is munched --Silohpso (talk) 21:35, 19 May 2025 (EST)
These templates[edit source]
This is unacceptable. A culling is desperately needed. Template:Bias Template:Bias2 Template:Inaccurate Template:Bullshit Template:Hoax Cobblestone (talk) 19:04, 17 May 2025 (EST)
- For now I removed Bias2 since it was the most egregious one. You could technically argue that they each have slightly different usecases like for bullshit vs hoax Cobblestone (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2025 (EST)
- I think it would be a good idea to remove Template:Annoying.css as well since pages that use it become pretty much unreadable because of the animation applied to it. For instance: Schizophrenia. Fenriris (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2025 (EST)
- annoying.css makes articles funnier doe CoblonDisciple (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2025 (EST)
- I would also like to point out that there are two templates that serve the same purpose: Template:Infodump and Template:WallOfText, so one of them can be removed as well Fenriris (talk) 12:52, 19 May 2025 (EST)
- infodump is a redirect nusoi CoblonDisciple (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2025 (EST)
- I think it would be a good idea to remove Template:Annoying.css as well since pages that use it become pretty much unreadable because of the animation applied to it. For instance: Schizophrenia. Fenriris (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2025 (EST)
duplicated templates[edit source]
marge there's an identical templates of marge
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--Silohpso (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2025 (EST)
- nusoi discovers redirects Cobblestone (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2025 (EST)
Dust and dustshort[edit source]
These are used, no reason to kill them. Cobblestone (talk) 10:24, 24 May 2025 (EST)
The question[edit source]
We didn't forget about this, we just acked the worst templates so things slowed down. Cobblestone (talk) 06:30, 9 June 2025 (EST)